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Post by Bronco on Sept 2, 2011 10:39:17 GMT -7
:My will explode: I'm getting sick and tired of the NCAA, total crap what they are doing. It is really going to hurt us for the game come Saturday. All three where key players for this game.
Where his what Mark Schlabach of ESPN said on twitter: Hard to figure what eligibility issue is bc Febis has been at BSU for 4 years; Bodldewign for 2; and Tjong-A-Tjoe for 2
This sucks :frustrated:
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Post by macphatdaddy on Sept 2, 2011 11:44:21 GMT -7
Please explain or give examples of the "total crap" that is being done by the NCAA as it relates to this story.
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Post by broncbuster on Sept 2, 2011 13:31:41 GMT -7
Sure, I can.......doing this right before a big game against the SEC. Tyrrelle Pryor and Scam Newton were allowed to play why there was an investigation going on. The NCAA seem to not care when that all went down. To me that is total crap. I'm sure Bronco would agree.
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Post by bluestorm on Sept 2, 2011 13:37:07 GMT -7
Please explain or give examples of the "total crap" that is being done by the NCAA as it relates to this story. I think its garbage because the NCAA chooses favorites, nailing some teams for some things and then other teams letting it go with a slap on the wrist, that's how. Explain in a rational way how Ohio State doesn't get slapped with lack of institutional control, yet Boise State does? When you can explain that, then I'll agree with you.
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Post by papasmurf on Sept 2, 2011 14:40:41 GMT -7
Please explain or give examples of the "total crap" that is being done by the NCAA as it relates to this story. Trying to figure out if you are an SEC fan or a Vandull?
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Post by macphatdaddy on Sept 2, 2011 20:50:27 GMT -7
None of you have addressed the issue. Describe what the NCAA has done that is "total crap". As I understand the situation the players are being held of the game because of "eligibility issues". That makes sense because ineligible players shouldn't be allowed to participate. It seems completely rational and opposite of "total crap".
And for what it's worth Boise State was tagged with a "lack of institutional control" label because the athletic department was completely our of control. For example, a tennis player was participating in matches without being enrolled in school. That's a text book definition of "lack of institutional conrol". It's inexcusable and shameful. In Ohio State's case the NCAA determined that the main problem was a lying scumbag of a head coach. And we haven't heard the last of that yet. But, hey, three players are being held out of the Ohio State game too. Is that "total crap" or is that ok because it isn't Boise State?
Not that Ohio State has anything to do with anything.
Maybe I'm missing something. Did the NCAA do something that resulted in these players having "eligibility issues"?
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Post by blueandorange on Sept 2, 2011 21:46:43 GMT -7
None of you have addressed the issue. Describe what the NCAA has done that is "total crap". As I understand the situation the players are being held of the game because of "eligibility issues". That makes sense because ineligible players shouldn't be allowed to participate. It seems completely rational and opposite of "total crap". And for what it's worth Boise State was tagged with a "lack of institutional control" label because the athletic department was completely our of control. For example, a tennis player was participating in matches without being enrolled in school. That's a text book definition of "lack of institutional conrol". It's inexcusable and shameful. In Ohio State's case the NCAA determined that the main problem was a lying scumbag of a head coach. And we haven't heard the last of that yet. But, hey, three players are being held out of the Ohio State game too. Is that "total crap" or is that ok because it isn't Boise State? Not that Ohio State has anything to do with anything. Maybe I'm missing something. Did the NCAA do something that resulted in these players having "eligibility issues"? It is the timing of the whole issue that is total crap, don't know how you can't understand that?{crazy} These players have been on the team for 2 to 4 years and to bring this up right before the Georgia pisses us off. If you can't understand that then sorry, you never will.
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Post by vandalsrule on Sept 2, 2011 21:51:43 GMT -7
Please explain or give examples of the "total crap" that is being done by the NCAA as it relates to this story. Trying to figure out if you are an SEC fan or a Vandull? SEC fan is my guess, most vandals don't care what you guys do anymore. I just like coming on here messing with you guys, but whatever you are accused of probably happened.
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Post by macphatdaddy on Sept 3, 2011 13:17:36 GMT -7
You're right. I don't understand how timing is an issue. That they have been on the team for years isn't really relevant. I admit I don't have all the facts. Apparently some information came to light recently that raised questions about the eligibility of these players. Unless the NCAA had this informatin for a period of time and only decided act on it immediately before the game I cannot understand how or why the NCAA is even involved in the discussion. As far as I can tell the school could have allowed these kids to play. The NCAA hasn't made a ruling on the eligibility, at least as it relates to recent developments, of these players. So I think calling the NCAA "total crap" is out of line.
I'm neither an SEC fan nor a Vandal. I just try to keep up with current events in college football. And I get a little tired of people dumping on the NCAA.
And if Boise State is as good as their ranking they should have all of the depth necessary to dispatch a chronic underachiever like Georgia. Even if half of the team is suspended. Univesity of Central Florida beat Georgia for crying out loud. It's not like BSU is playing a quality football team like Nevada or anything. Get off the NCAA's back and try to act rational. And make sure that all of the kids on the team are actually enrolled in school.
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Post by broncbuster on Sept 3, 2011 15:57:19 GMT -7
I don't know why you care about the NCAA so much, they have been proven to be inconsistent and bias. I think that is why a lot of fans don't like some of their rulings. As far as the "total crap" line being out of line, I don't get what's out of line in Bronco saying that? We are all BSU fans, we can say whatever we want about the NCAA. Only way that could be taken in an offensive way is if you work for the NCAA.
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Post by macphatdaddy on Sept 3, 2011 19:33:09 GMT -7
So I can call something "total crap" without regard to fact? Ok. Kellen Moore is "total crap". Wait, that's not true but it's ok for me to say it because I'm a fan and I can say anything I want.
I don't care about the NCAA as much as I care about mature and rational discourse. If somebody is going to make a wild accusation I have no problem calling them out and asking for facts to back up the claim. The NCAA's behavior in this case may or may not be total crap. Support the position with facts or lose credibility. So far I find very little credibility in the thread.
I enjoy BSU as much as the next guy but I'm not wearing beer goggles. I am not blind to facts. And the facts appeart to be that something happened to call the eligibility of the players into question. I don't know what happened. I don't know how that event or series of events resulted in the NCAA becoming "total crap". I am asking for an explanation. That nobody can answer my question seems to indicate that the claim is baseless and was made by an idiot. I can live with that. Can you?
My experience across the country is that BSU and associated fans get very little respect. I may be learning why that is the case as a result of this exchange. I guess I'll drop the subject now since it's been a couple of days and nobody has offered anything of substance to support the claim that the NCAA's behavior was "total crap".
For what it's worth, I'm glad that BSU is beating Georgia silly. Of course, 30 or 40 teams in the country couldn beat Georgia silly but it's still a good thing for college football.
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Post by blueandorange on Sept 3, 2011 22:02:46 GMT -7
"For what it's worth, I'm glad that BSU is beating Georgia silly. Of course, 30 or 40 teams in the country couldn't beat Georgia silly but it's still a good thing for college football." That sure was a backhanded compliment if I ever heard one. Who cares about this topic anymore? I'm done talking about this and you want to have rational discourse. Fact of the matter is, no one knows how good Georgia is until the season unfolds.
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Post by macphatdaddy on Sept 3, 2011 23:15:49 GMT -7
More palavering without addressing the initial question. That's weak. Very weak. What has the NCAA done in this case to deserve the "total crap" label. Nothing, that's what. Time to move on to better things.
Yes, it was a backhanded compliment because when a top 10 team beats Georgia it isn't exactly resume material. Georgia losing a big game is almost as reliable as the sun rising in the east. Facts, people, facts.
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Post by papasmurf on Sept 3, 2011 23:23:14 GMT -7
More palavering without addressing the initial question. That's weak. Very weak. What has the NCAA done in this case to deserve the "total crap" label. Nothing, that's what. Time to move on to better things. Yes, it was a backhanded compliment because when a top 10 team beats Georgia it isn't exactly resume material. Georgia losing a big game is almost as reliable as the sun rising in the east. Facts, people, facts. You are here just to argue cause you don't like Boise State and what they represent. And as far as the facts..........Sorry to break it to you but this is a message board for fans to express there opinions, not post facts. If that was the case then all you'd see would be scores and stats. It is opinions that make these boards fun. If you come on here to express opposing opinions then that is what you'll get in return cause this is a bsu board. Sorry if you don't like it.
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